How to mix drums and bass – with Manny Amalgam

what’s up guys we’re not staying here
we’re going to Manny’s we’re back again with Manny over here
and last time if you guys who remember Manny just started this really cool song
and he got to give me a few tips that video was so well-received and we’re
back here to find out what he’s been working on and maybe we can learn a
little bit more from him also make sure you watch until the end because we’ve
got a giveaway today last time Manny showed us some really
cool plugins and we’re giving away one of those the big one Frye Rahm Vice
honorable but to find out how you can win it you got to watch till the end and
I’ll give you all those details you guys probably remember Charlie – Charlie’s in
the exact same spot that he was in that last video I think this is his favorite
spot at least when I’m around with the exact same emotions when I walked in
today I was super impressed by the bass sound in this song it was so clean and
the kick drum came out so well and I was just thinking to myself must be these
awesome speakers that you’ve got here but I’m thinking like when I go and play
this I’m playing it on my iphone or if I’m playing on my computer at home how
the heck am I gonna make it sound decent when I don’t have these you know
multi-thousand are speakers at all we don’t want things are sounding good here
because it’s here yeah we wanted to sound good because it just sounds good
so there are some tips and tricks your face we can show
so what’s been going on since the last time we met so I have worked more on
that same beat we’ve got it to basically being finished it’s now in Pro Tools the
whole arrangement is flushed out we have some transitions at the end of the verse
we have simple swells and stuff coming in and out and then by the time the last
chorus hits we have guitars coming in we have another bass sound and we even have
some DJ scratches we have two bases though that’s trillion
playing a sort of live sounding bass we have the bass synth that goes along with
the trillion bass they play together during the course okay what are you
using for the bass synth we are using output substance okay running in contact
then we also added drums up here in Pro Tools some machine sounding drums drum
machine and then we also have some live sounding drums kicks and snares yeah
completely artificial machine sounding that’s cool there’s actually three kicks
and three snares a drum kit so live sounding coming out of addictive drums
excellent audio so totally you’ve got like four snares I spend so much time
just finding one stair that I’m satisfied with here you ended up looking
for four snares that all come together to get that one sound that you’re
looking for just for the snare so it gives us you know more width there when
you were constructing this song how did you decide to put the guitar in there do
you usually try a bunch of different things and like oh that’s it’s pretty
well or did you actually hear it in your head and say I need a guitar all I knew
is that the chorus was kind of boring so I wanted to add some rhythm something to
added some texture or some movement and we can hear that real quick we have the DJ scratch samples that is
coming out of a plug-in Bayou VI they recorded a bunch of DJ samples yeah
scratch samples you get access to each individual sample which we used a little
bit then they also have loop for this baseline we have trillion
playing sort of a live sounding bass and then we have output playing the synth e
base in both cases we have fry rom as being the first plug-in that they see
we’ve got the smart EQ we’ve got proximity EQ and we’ve got entropy EQ
this time around we’re using smart EQ on the Left we have what trillion is
getting treated with basically we have let fry ROM listen to our bass sound and
analyze it I don’t know what kind of Voodoo they’re doing but they’re doing
some stuff and it comes up with this filter response so this filter response
will sort of restore spectral balance basically and you can see we have
cleaned up the trouble a lot and the reason that we did that is because if
you look at this one this going on to the output substance space which is that
synth bass and you can see that we’re focusing on the trouble and we’ve
actually rolled off the base and you can see here this is the smooth response
this is much like a regular you keep so you have two different modes of
operating you can use it like a regular EQ and at the same time you can also get
this filter response this magic that is the smart EQ now this is the plugin you
guys are going to be able to win and you get those three things with it so
remember watch till the end and yeah that’s good enough so we have two really interesting things
that we want to show the first being surfer EQ made by sound radix this is an
EQ plug-in you notice these values 1 2 4 5 we also have frequencies 1 10 to 24 40
normally you’d pick those spots in the spectrum and you’d turn them up or turn
them down we play this real quick you’re seeing what’s happening is that it’s
moving around as the notes of the bass line are coming in so this EQ is
watching what bass notes are played and then applying my EQ to those specific
notes based on harmonics so on the first harmonic which for this specific note
that I last played it happened to be at 41 Hertz the next note that comes is
probably not at 41 Hertz I didn’t sit there and do a bunch of painstaking
automation or math or anything I just told surfer EQ to surf it’s gonna keep
track of what notes come and it’s gonna move it and in fact all of these four
bands that are turned on are all surfing so they’re all doing the first second
fourth and fifth harmonics of the bass note that comes
why are those harmonics so important having higher harmonics tricks our
brains into hearing the fundamental so that means that if I’m listening in
earbuds or on a laptop that can’t reproduce 41
Hertz that’s okay because these upper harmonics at 80 at 160 at 200 they’re
gonna go ahead and make my brain sort of hear 40 so this is what would help me
still get a good listening experience on another device that can’t play some of
those lower frequencies it’s not completely perfect right but it’s better
than not having us and here’s the second thing that’s really cool about this if
this bass line was an actual bass that went through an amplifier and we had a
microphone and we recorded it our room would have waves bouncing around some of
them would cancel some of them would amplify and we’d have sort of some
issues to deal with we might have sort of a hole at 40 Hertz so we’re gonna use
our EQ to kind of lift up 40 Hertz because every time that something is in
40 Hertz it’s a little bit weak because my room is can’t
right or because where I put the mic in the amp it’s just that way that it
worked out but this was all virtual instruments so I don’t need to be fixing
any problems of the spectrum but instead what I’m doing is I am EQE
the note when it’s there so if a note is that 40 Hertz IEQ it if that note moves
to 80 Hertz I’m not a queuing sort of noise or
Rumble at 40 still the EQ move to 80 and it’s again a cueing the note
next plugin that i want to again on our base waves factory track
spacer and so I’m gonna play this real quick and you’ll see two lines I see a
blue line that’s gonna be our kick drum and this white line which is our EQ
response it’s basically side-chaining so you can
see that this key input is the kick drum so every time the kick drum hits the
bass gets turned down just a little bit it’s very small it’s very subtle but
that lets us hear the kick drum even while the bass is going
when the kick drum is done the bass line returns back to its full glory but this
means that we don’t have to have two instruments fighting each other for the
bass so let’s go ahead and solo our base and let’s solo our kick drum only these
two will play it’s a little glitchy but I always hear the kick drum and I always
hear the bass when the kick drums not day now I did use track spacer one other
in one other instance I was having an issue by the end of the song I can’t
really hear output substance because there’s an electric guitar in the way
and there’s got samples on the way so I have track spacer again making room for
the bass line so when the bass is not playing the
electric guitar can come sort of rise and be be playing full but any plugin
says if that man is showing here I’ll put the info in the description along
with some prices and links of where you can get all right so that’s what you’ve done to
get the bass sounding so awesome what else did you do two for this mixed slate
digital Virtual Console was on everything the mix bus or the channels
primarily using the BRIT 4k we have a couple plugins here on the master from
waves’ and again from slate they just make
things sound better the bass is going through just a little bit of pre delay
and I think the drums this is the drum machine Channel so we’ve got more of
that slate stuff transient designers on the snare and then the live drums it’s
getting some compression from wavez API 2500 the the strings and the vocals on
the hook are going through slate digital again that’s the guitar and the scratch
samples aware of is that when you have these
plugins that they just sound better when they’re in make sure that when they’re
processing that they’re not louder than when they’re bypassed because then you
just go all it louder sounds better you don’t even realize that you’re doing it
but you said louder sounds better than you put them in so you got to kind of
actually tweak your gains to make sure that the in is the same as the out and
then compare if I’m sitting there deciding whether this is good or not
I’ll actually have my mouth ready to bypass it it’ll be playing and I’ll
actually close my eyes I won’t move the mouse anymore but I’ll close my eyes and
click up under time so right now I don’t know I click either an even or an odd
number of times yes it’s either on or off that’s that’s
such a good idea yeah I don’t know so you don’t know whether it’s on or off
yeah so then I’m just listening to others and by then I’ve already made
sure the volumes are kind of the same as best I can get I’m gonna close my eyes
and I click once it’s either on or off or it’s off or on I don’t know
and is it better or worse and if it’s better than good and if it’s worse than
get rid of it or change it or change the settings or try different plug-in or
maybe you just don’t need anything there that’s a great tip I’m gonna start doing
that I like that it’s kind of silly either nested there on the eyes closed
but it works you don’t need to look at anything just listen you showed all
these plugins and you’ve talked about the mix and how to get the right bass
sound and they’re how do you know all this stuff I went to Omega studios
School of Recording Arts and Sciences for about a year okay I mean I
eventually interned there so interning in studio with paying customers and real
sessions with the real hardware – yep big mixing boards all of these plugins
as outboard equipment kind of like this stuff but way more I think I learned
more after going there though by using my computer by actually working on audio
I learned so much just now and I’m sure you guys did too to enter the giveaway
to win sauna bowl fry romp remember you’re getting all three of those tools
in fryer um it’s awesome and actually the thing cost like three hundred and
fifty dollars so this is an amazing amazing giveaway to enter it make sure
you’re subscribed to this channel the other video I did with Manny and go
watch that because you’re gonna learn a lot from that too and leave a comment so
those three things right make sure you subscribe go find the other video with
Manny right here and leave a comment Manny thanks so much for your time
thanks a lot charlie all right Manny Thank You Man
see you guys later awesome right I love the time I spend with Manny I learned so
much and I hope you guys did too if you like this video hit the like button and
subscribe don’t forget make the music that you love and I’ll see you guys
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22 thoughts on “How to mix drums and bass – with Manny Amalgam”

  1. Yes yes yall!

    The only updates that happened after Sanjay came through was that I added some delay from SoundToys Echo Boy and some plate reverb from Waves Abbey Road Reverb Plates plug-ins. The mix in Pro Tools ended up pretty dry, but the sample, the bass synth, the guitar plug-in, and the scratch plug-in already had their own reverbs/delays. Mastering happened with Flux Epure, Slate FG-X, and Eventide/Newfangled Elevate.

  2. Bass sounds incredible on that track, very big and deep, without overpowering the mix, and that’s listening on iPad with Beats X. Very impressive stuff. Probably also helps that he has some killer mastering grade full range monitors that tell you exactly what’s going on all the way down to 20hz. Be good to know the room dimensions and how it’s is set up and treated, as you’d need that to properly use those full range monitors. Nice work Sanjay.

  3. Hey Sanjay… I subscribed a week ago when I was setting up my Roli Seaboard block. Since then I have watched a ton of your content. Thanks much… fantastic stuff! Manny episodes were fantastic too! Love the Sound Radix Surfer EQ. On a 3rd Manny episode maybe he could show us a little about NI Maschine… I have found the software not very intuitive. Would love to hear some insight from a pro. Keep this stuff coming and let us know how we can support you Sanjay. TtT. BTW bought the amazon basics Push2 stand… Love it!!

  4. This beat was amazing! Loved all his explanations, and I didn't realize how important layering drums was to achieving the sound you wanted. And that SurferEQ plugin is dope! Def wanna check that out soon

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