Skateboarding with Andrew Reynolds

CHRIS GROSSO: Hi. My name is Chris Grosso. I’m a producer here at
and the first show I ever got to work on was
Epicly Later’d. [MUSIC PLAYING] CHRIS GROSSO: So this episode of
Epicly Later’d is centered around Andrew Reynolds’
madness. Andrew Reynolds is obviously one
of the best skaters in the world and has been
for a long time. This episode focuses on him
trying to film a trick for what was then his upcoming
video Stay Gold. We actually have a doctor from
Columbia University in this episode and he explains what
the actual breakdown is for OCD, in particular, OCD
for a skateboarder. Vice presents Epicly Later’d
Andrew Reynolds’ Madness. MALE SPEAKER: Neckface was
telling me he saw you try a trick and it was
hat nine times. ANDREW REYNOLDS: Nine, yeah. Like before I go to bed at night
I go to the door and I lock it nine times
but like 3,3,3. 3,3,3. 3,3,3. And I do that three times. And then sometimes I’m
laying down and I’m like, did I do it? And I go back. And then it’s like once I did
that, then it has to be the nine, the whole thing, 3,3,3. 3,3,3. 3,3,3. Three times, and then if I
messed up and did it, then I have to do that whole
thing three times. You know what I mean? PATRICK O’DELL: All right. Welcome back to the show. This episode is about
Andrew Reynolds. I’ve said this about every guest
so far but Andrew really is the best skater. There’s no one that can skate
big stuff like him as stylish as he does. He’ll do an ollie inward
heelflip down all these stairs and it looks like flat-ground. This episode I went on a little
trip to San Francisco and I filmed him trying
to trick down the Wallenberg Four. Kind of what I wanted to focus
on was what he calls “madness” where he has to do all
these little rituals. It means a lot to me to have a
skater like Andrew talk to me and talk about these
weird tics he has. And that’s what this episode’s
about, it’s just the madness episode. I’m going to ask you just
what madness is? ANDREW REYNOLDS: All right. Well, it’s basically obsessive
compulsive disorder. And it comes on really strong
when I’m doing tricks and I’m skating and I’m kind
of scared. I think it has something to do
with being scared or having some anxiety from having
to try the trick. Wherever you skate there’s
cracks in the ground and there’s signs and there’s
people around. And pretty much it ends up being
this thing where I have to do three things
three times. I do like three taps
a lot of times. It could start with just like,
[TAPPING], and then by the end it could be [TAPPING] that, and then like [TAPPING] that and then it could be three
taps and then it could be, Patrick, you ready? Tepa, ready? So and so, you ready? Back. Tepa, you ready? And then make sure the coast is
clear, there’s no people, and then go. [CHEERING] ANDREW REYNOLDS: I don’t
know what it does. I don’t even know why I do it
but for me, I think, why I do it is because I get all this
little bullshit stuff out of the way and then it’s like I’m
clear to just go forward and jump down the thing. MICHAEL MAHER: I know in
executing tricks and try like repeating them over and over
there’s a certain amount of repetition that’s
even necessary to be good at skating. I don’t think anyone could make
an assessment based on watching someone’s, say,
pre-trick ritual or behavior, whether they have a
disorder or not. Oh sure, it’s interesting
because I grew up skating in a half-pipe in a friend’s backyard
and stuff like that and even the way you hold the
board or start something or kick the board up like what
we’re talking about, get’s associated with pulling
off a trick right. I think they may even sort of
cue motor systems to sort of be on target and paying
attention to things that we’re not so aware of. It may actually fine-tune our
ability to pull off some difficult tricks or difficult
maneuvers. KEVIN “SPANKY” LONG: I’ve had
this theory that with skateboarding, with the madness,
it’s so hard to clear your mind when you’re about to
try a trick and if you’re focusing on little stupid things
like tapping or walking up the stairs a certain way, it
kind of clears your mind. And you’re like, OK,
I did that right. I got it. ANDREW REYNOLDS: I mean, it’s
like I know people where OCD has came and pretty much fucked
up their whole life and they can’t do anything. They can but they need meds
and it’s all fucked up. And I realized it at one point,
I have this and I do it and I know I do it. And I just thought to myself,
well, it’s worked this long I might as well keep doing it. PATRICK O’DELL: Yeah. ANDREW REYNOLDS: I
can’t stop it. MALE SPEAKER: Fuck! He fucked it up! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] ANDREW REYNOLDS:
Thank you, man. MALE SPEAKER: It’s crazy. That was awesome. PATRICK O’DELL: Andrew, can I
film your back one more time? Did you have madness
that time? ANDREW REYNOLDS: You saw it. It was a lot of variations,
though. PATRICK O’DELL: Yeah. ANDREW REYNOLDS: Tail drop,
tap three, tail drop, tap three, tail drop, tap three. PATRICK O’DELL: Yeah. ANDREW REYNOLDS: It
works though. PATRICK O’DELL: Hell yeah! ANDREW REYNOLDS: I have no
complaints about it because I got my trick. PATRICK O’DELL: Yeah,
yeah, yeah. BRYAN HERMAN: You see what
it does if you tap the wall three times? He gets a chance to backstep
at Wallenberg. Like that. ANDREW REYNOLDS: There’s a 19
in Victorville that I really want to do. MALE SPEAKER: It’s like that. BEAGLE: He’s not even happy. He’s not even happy. Monumental. JAKE PHELPS: He’s like
a Spiderman. His legs. All in the legs until
he can’t get up. He’ll be doing it forever. He’s better than all the
whole fucking team. So you can park that and
put that in your pipe and smoke it. All you little fags
on the team, you can think about that. Who’s the boss? The boss. Who’s driving the van? The boss. Who’s frontside flicking
the big shit? The boss. To the rest of you
guys, who cares. PATRICK O’DELL: What about
Terry Kennedy? JAKE PHELPS: Who? PATRICK O’DELL: Terry. JAKE PHELPS: I don’t know him. PATRICK O’DELL: How would
you describe Jason Dill? JAKE PHELPS: Jesse’s a
great Brit skater. PATRICK O’DELL: How
about Jason Dill? JAKE PHELPS: I don’t know him. PATRICK O’DELL: What about
Braydon Szafranski? JAKE PHELPS: Bust or Bail,
that’s what I call it. PATRICK O’DELL: Yeah.

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